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The perfect piece, Harry. I loved it.

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Thank you Ben, that's very kind of you

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Loved this piece.

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Thanks Teri

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as someone obsessed with a good pub, I enjoyed that read. Thanks Harry. Might consider a humorous post one day on how difficult it is finding a great pub in London (that isn't packed)

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Glad you enjoyed it Rosana - and go for it re your piece. After I left the northeast in the 1970s I lived and worked in and around London for nearly four decades so I've seen the inside of many a London pub in my time. There were many I liked yet never really found my 'local'.

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I’m very pleased you have found a new local Harry. And you can enjoy two northern pints for the price of one southern beer!

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Or three at London prices! I'm saving up for my next visit in a couple of weeks. Also plan to visit Wiltshire next spring (but not the Rose and Crown). Nearer the time we'll see if we might meet for a beer or two ?

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Yes, it would be good to see you again. Reading about your meet up with Sue Reed brought back memories of our various afternoons chewing the cud.

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Yes, meeting up with Sue also triggered memories of our get togethers and not to make you too jealous but the Queens Head also have Happy Wednesday when they knock 20% off draught beer. It may be grim up north but it is cheaper .... 😉

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Ok, ok, stop rubbing it in!

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History calls upon you to preserve these places or their memory. I never thought that I'd develop such sentiments until I moved to a place where history is practically around a corner or beneath my feet.

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Indeed Daniel

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Ah that's grand. Glad you found a new place

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Enjoyed this article!

Reminded me of my first pub introduction. I was driving to Bath from London on my move to the UK. I stopped at a roadside pub, near a little village called ‘Box,’ for dinner.

I had the surprise of my life, when concerned if I would get vegetarian food, I saw, written in chalk - ‘Rajma and rice!’

That was also my intro to improv Indian food!

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I know Box Jayshree (I used to live in Chippenham) but not that pub. Life is full of surprises!!

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A small world, then! I used to go to Chippenham often when I lived in Bath!

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Small world indeed - I lived there from 2013 to 2022 - after I retired I volunteered in the local museum.

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I too, have found a new place for refreshments.

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I read your piece with great anticipation. Will Harry find his new local? The reason is, we are about to move in a few weeks. Only two miles away - from the north side of downtown - to the south side. But it means we'll be a far walk from our local. A warm and inviting tavern that always had a few neighbor to chat up. The new neighborhood boasts one bar. So all eggs in that basket. I'll let you know how it goes.

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Please do so Peter - might you have read this essay by Orwell on how he imagined his dream pub?

https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/the-moon-under-water/

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What a delightful article Harry. Thanks for sharing the link. I predicted it was fictional but my heart still ached for a place such as this.

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Yes, mine too!

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Places go through cycles, although there are generally fewer pubs now. Gateshead has had something of a pub renaissance, and I hope the trend for "micropubs" continues as long as the overheads are kept manageable. Mind you, not enough places have mild on tap for my liking still!

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Yes, the advent of the micropub is a great thing and with you on mild too. It was a drink I discovered only after meeting the girl who became my first wife and hailed from Kent. This would have been 1975 and a 'Brown and Mild' was a classic combination in Kent pubs. Not the brown ale I was used to in the northeast but a much sweeter, nuttier flavour. The last time I saw mild on draft was again in Kent but that was probably a decade ago or more. Another combination that many in London drank in those early days was 'Light and Bitter' - again not seen these days. At least, and despite the demise of Vaux Brewery, I can still get my favourite brown ale - Double Maxim.

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Glad you've found your new local, Harry. The walk there will soon see you fit as a lop!

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Indeed Sue, I always feel I've worked for my beer after the hill climb 😉

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Thank you Marian and Joaquin is correct!

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